Hyper Calvinism Criticism

by Joe Thorn on July 27, 2005

Dr. Steve Lemke, Provost, Professor of Philosophy and Ethics at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary has written a paper entitled, The Future of Southern Baptists as Evangelicals. He explains early on in the paper that its purpose is to spur dialogue while addressing the issues with other Southern Baptists. SBC President Bobby Welch and others have chosen to use part of this paper to launch attacks against Calvinist theology and churches.

Dr. Lemke lays out 6 issues (and related predictions and warnings) that he believes will play a role in our future as a denomination. I want to get to issue number 4 in particular, but have to make a few quick stops on the way.

He makes the point that doctrinal integrity is one of the primary issues we are facing as a Convention. His concern is, in part, that many of the students today are less interested in topics like soteriology and are more interested in pragmatic questions about church management. I wouldn’t argue with his experience, but my experience has been the opposite. The majority of younger leaders and pastors I know personally are more theologically oriented than many of our more seasoned pastors. I see some good change happening in this area, but agree with his concern as it applies to the whole.

He then raises biblical authority as an issue. I would again agree. We must place our lives and churches under the authority, or rule of Scripture. But then his first few lines of application seem to work against the principle. He brings up the old church covenants that commonly promoted abstinence from the sale and use of beverage alcohol, as well as dancing, and argues that such standards are falling out of favor. To this I want to say two things. First, the standards are certainly in effect when being commissioned by the NAMB or IMB (I went through this process with my wife). Second, this is an area where I think it would be better to be truly under the authority of Scripture, rather than the traditions of men. And just a note; many of our Baptist fathers drank – not to excess, but in thankfulness to God – including early Southern Baptists. But essentially we agree here too, that Scripture should be our authority.

There are a few more things I want to address, but do not have the time since I am focusing on issue number four in his paper: Hyper-Calvinistic Soteriology.

In the beginning Dr. Lemke is generous in dealing with Calvinism. It is clear that he is not out to “get” Calvinists. The problem is with his explanation of hyper-Calvinism. He essentially argues that traditional, five point Calvinism is “hyper” or “hard.” But this is not what has been historically understood as hyper-Calvinism. He goes on to make a distinction between the “hyper-Calvinists” and the “softer baptistic Calvinists.” Of course, the term “baptistic Calvinist” begs the question and is never established in my opinion.

Hyper-Calvinism cannot be determined by the affirmation of the Canons of Dordt. These responses to the Arminian Remonstrance lay out a fundamental expression of Calvinistic theology affirmed by Carey, Spurgeon, Boyce and others. Hyper-Calvinism (HC) is the corruption of historic Calvinism and shows itself in a few ways.

First, HC denies that all men and women can and should be invited to believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. The facts can be presented to an audience, but only the elect should be encouraged to believe after sufficient evidence has been given that they are among God’s chosen. This is at odds with historic Calvinism that has argued we must invite all people to believe in Jesus Christ, though our only hope is in God’s “efficacious grace” bringing the individual to faith and repentance.

Second, HC denies the responsibility of non-elect individuals to believe in Jesus Christ because of their inability. But again here, historic Calvinism rejects this notion. Jonathan Edwards made a very helpful distinction between moral ability and natural ability that has become common thinking in the reformed tradition (See Edward’s, Freedom of the Will). Traditional Calvinists believe it is the responsibility of all to believe in Jesus.

Third, HC denies the love of God toward the non-elect. Though classical Calvinism affirms a special love of God for the elect, it also maintains a general benevolent love of God for all of creation. All of this is what led to other problems in HC that were and are reflected in a lack of missionary zeal.

None of these characteristics of HC are implied or derived from the Canons of Dordt.

At the end of this section, Dr. Lemke argues that the evidence (statistical data of “Founders-Friendly Churches” compared to the rest of the Convention’s churches) suggests “hard Calvinists,” or traditional, five point Calvinists, tend to be less evangelistic. The interpretation of the stats is problematic. Is a church that is baptizing fewer people and smaller in size less evangelistic? Does it mean they are less successful in evangelism? The issue of large membership rolls and much smaller attandence in our churches raises a relevant point. If two thirds of our SBC membership is not in church, and perhaps unconverted, wouldn’t that be an important component in figuring the meaning of these stats? Let’s pretend the average SBC church has 300 members, but only 100 show up on Sunday morning. Let’s say the average Calvinistic church in the SBC has only 100 members. Wouldn’t we want to know how many of those members show up on Sunday? If 100 of the 100 showed up on Sunday would that change the way we evaluate this information? Perhaps the smaller size of Reformed churches reflects a good thing, and not a bad thing when talking about denominational and ecclesiastical health. Jim Elliff speaks to this so well, I will just direct you to his article.

In my estimation, this part of the paper is seriously flawed. Though unintended, it has become ammunition used by others who do not have the generous spirit of Dr. Lemke to attack those affiliated with Founders Ministries.

Let me say this though, I have found Calvinistic churches that are lacking in evangelistic/missional zeal and work. Is this the fruit of bad theology? I would say it is the fruit of incomplete theology, or more often the result of being more about doctrine than God and people. This is something the more theologically oriented churches have to guard against. It is possible to miss the theological forest for the trees.

Everyone involved is concerned with the future of the SBC. But what those concerns are and how we address them varies based on perspective. This is what makes dialogue so important, and I am grateful for Dr. Lemke’s willingness to talk.

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Update: The Founders Ministries Blog is now addressing Dr. Lemke’s paper. Tom Ascol has touched on some of what I have here and will continue in a follow up post. It will certainly be better than what I have given, so be sure and check it out here.

{ 14 comments }

1 Jim Hamilton July 27, 2005 at 5:07 pm

Well said. Thanks for the good word.

The post below on the younger leaders is good, too.

May the Lord bless your ministry!

2 Denny Burk July 27, 2005 at 5:48 pm

Great post. I am linking it on my blog: http://dennyburk.blogspot.com.

3 Jeff July 28, 2005 at 7:10 am

I agree with what you have said…
I agreed with you last night…
But as a cautionary note, remember Hosea 8:7.

Semper Paratus

jl

4 Marty Duren July 28, 2005 at 8:01 am

Jeff-
About what type of whirlwind are you cautioning? It may be that Joe’s post is the whirlwind being reaped by another.

5 Jeff July 28, 2005 at 8:41 am

Marty,

Very true and while I know in my heart that Joe’s points are well founded (no pun intended) that does not mean that everyone who reads his words will assume the same point of view. In short, there is always a cost to be paid when one ‘bumps heads’ with established organizations and the SBC certainly meets this criterion.

This is NOT to say that Joe should ‘tone it down’ – heaven forbid. Rather he should shout his views from the rooftops. Knox, Luther, Calvin and Keach did so and they would expect no less from their pupils. I merely point out that Satan is just as active inside the ‘church’ as he is outside and he is the true adversary in this battle, and as is true in any battle…wounds are bound to be suffered.

Perhaps I should have added Luke 14:28, for it defines Semper Paratus.

jl

6 Joe Thorn July 28, 2005 at 9:30 am

Thanks guys. Jeff, I am working on being “always ready.” But as you can tell when we play chess – I need reminders and a lot of prayer. :)

7 joe kennedy July 28, 2005 at 7:24 pm

I’m with Jeff. I’ve seen too many people argue over this issue way too much, making it too big of a deal. It is one of the key struggles within the Baptist world that makes church unity hard. It’s split the best of churches (Dauphin Way in Mobile, AL for example) and it’s ended many others. It should be discussed in proper context with humility and honesty.

But at some point we all have to find something else to discuss. At some point there’s no more reason to argue about it. Maybe Lemke and Welch started this round, maybe they didn’t. In the end, it’s not important.

I’m expecting Dr. Keathley’s paper on Antinomy soon. Once I’ve read it and posted on it over on my blog, that will be the end of my part of the conversation. I will have no more to offer. I’m weary of the debate over Calvin/Beza and Arminius. In the end, neither side changes the fact that we are to love God and love others, and that Jesus sent us into the world to make disciples. I appreciate your discussions, but I’m so tired of it- here, at the University of Mobile, at other schools.. with other people…

As someone I know said, “when I started telling people about Calvinism before Christ, I knew I had a problem.” At some point we have to refocus on the real purpose of our lives, and it isn’t to debate or fight over 2 dead guys’ theologies.

8 Joe Thorn July 28, 2005 at 7:36 pm

Joe,

I have said for a long time now – I think it is wrong to find your identity is a theological system, or to be all about being reformed. Christ must be everything. But the idea that this conversation is, or should be, done is short-sighted.

No one here is interested in pushing a system on someone before Christ. Some people, like your friend, get to that place and repentance is necessary. For most of us, we introduce people to Jesus and as we make disciples the theology is built in.

Personally, I am not interested in the SBC being a reformed convention, but I do desire it to be accepting of the reformed tradition and heritage.

For those who read my blog – you know that I am not saluting five flags every week here. God and the Bible is much bigger than that. The issue at stake is Prez Bobby wrote something that was unfair. He’s getting nailed for it. That’s how it works. Mohler gets nailed sometimes, I get nailed, I even nailed you at Steve’s blog tonight for saying something about Jesus that wasn’t true. :) That’s why we’re having this discussion. Not because we are fired up to talk about Calvinism.

9 joe kennedy July 28, 2005 at 7:36 pm

By the way, I pretty much agree with everything you said in this post.

10 joe kennedy July 28, 2005 at 8:15 pm

Absolutely Joe, I know that you and Steve both are not so stuck on it that it’s all you discuss. My frustration stems mostly from the fact that this debate is everywhere I turn. In some cases, those pretending to be knowledgeable- acting like little theologians- spout senseless jabber about Arminius and Calvin as if they were standing next to the men as they wrote their theologies. And this summer, I have not escaped it. From one turn to another, there it is, staring me in the face. And I have grown tired of it.

I do think the issue is overly discussed. For too many people this is too big of an issue, and one on which many dwell and obsess. That, by all means, is wrong. If one needs something on which to obsess, I can think of no greater goal than to love others and love God. This is such a polarizing topic, and so few know how to address it with humility- some Calvinists approach it with an arrogance that they are elect and chosen by God. My experience tells me there are normal folks, like you and some guys from undergrad, who are Calvinists, but also strongly “evangelistic.” Likewise, experience has shown both arrogant and pushy Calvinists as well as ignorant and hostile Arminians.

And now I have to go see what you said about me on Steve’s blog. But know that if I say something wrong, I want to be corrected. But when it comes to Calvinism and Arminianism, I just really don’t care. I happily ride the fence of the antinomy/paradox view into the horizon. Very happily. Nothing I’ve said was meant to be personal. My experience has just been that all the hard-core crazy folks run out and go nuts when someone utters the name John Calvin (Calvinist or Arminian).

By the way, check out my latest post on my blog- I want to see if you have any ideas toward that goal. Any thoughts, warnings, encouragement… whatever.

Peace man.

11 Joe Thorn July 28, 2005 at 8:20 pm

Yeah Joe. I ran into novice Calvinists who were filled with pride and unbearable. In fact, I was one of them for a few years.

12 Jeff T July 29, 2005 at 9:00 am

I had a friend tell me that when one comes to accept the Doctrines of Grace they ought to locked up for seven years so they don’t make a fool of themselves.

13 Joe Thorn July 29, 2005 at 9:03 am

Yeah we called it the “cage stage,” which is where many of us needed to be locked up. We thought a couple years would be sufficient.

14 Jimmy Stanfield August 31, 2005 at 2:48 am

I thought it was ironic that Dr.Lemke condemns the seeker sensitive church growth gurus for a lack of concern with doctrine and just being concerned about pragmatic results such as mere numbers and then turns around and condemns the founders churches for not having the big numbers.

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