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	<title>Comments on: Assurance</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Thorn</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/08/23/assurance/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Resources on this approach to evangelism:
Thomas Boston, The Art of Manfishing
Solomon Stoddard, A Guide to Christ
Richard Baxter, The Reformed Pastor (The third/final chapter)

In terms of &quot;reaching out,&quot; we are trying to ask - what needs redeeming in our community? How can the gospel/kingdom be displayed there? What can we do to demonstrate that work? Church bodies or home groups can do this. I think reaching out requires us to be IN THE WORLD. It seems to me like many in my circles are so focused on &quot;not being of the world&quot; that there is no real sense in which they are &quot;in the world.&quot; It is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joethorn.net/?p=35&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;messy ministry&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resources on this approach to evangelism:<br />
Thomas Boston, The Art of Manfishing<br />
Solomon Stoddard, A Guide to Christ<br />
Richard Baxter, The Reformed Pastor (The third/final chapter)</p>
<p>In terms of &#8220;reaching out,&#8221; we are trying to ask &#8211; what needs redeeming in our community? How can the gospel/kingdom be displayed there? What can we do to demonstrate that work? Church bodies or home groups can do this. I think reaching out requires us to be IN THE WORLD. It seems to me like many in my circles are so focused on &#8220;not being of the world&#8221; that there is no real sense in which they are &#8220;in the world.&#8221; It is a <a href="http://www.joethorn.net/?p=35" rel="nofollow">messy ministry</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Shuman</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/08/23/assurance/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Shuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joe.  That&#039;s helpful.  Is there any other good resources you would recomend on the subject?  The folks in my home-group are trying to do some creative thinking on good ways to reach out to the community.  Have you guys done anything along those lines?  Thanks a ton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe.  That&#8217;s helpful.  Is there any other good resources you would recomend on the subject?  The folks in my home-group are trying to do some creative thinking on good ways to reach out to the community.  Have you guys done anything along those lines?  Thanks a ton.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Most of the peple who have come to Christ at Grace were unchurched, and *very* lost - if you know what I mean. Obviously, there is little point breaking out the diagram if a person is not seeking. I treat everyone differently, and do not always use the diagram, certainly not until a certain point.

In the case of those who are not seeking, I will share the Gospel, but in different ways, and I like to do a lot of listening. Do they consider themselves spiritual? Why? Good? Why? Sometimes talking about the four major components of worldsviews is helpful. Where did we come from? What went wrong? What is the solution? Where are we going? But in a more conversation way. The more I know about where they are and what they really believe the better equipped I am to apply the gospel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Most of the peple who have come to Christ at Grace were unchurched, and *very* lost &#8211; if you know what I mean. Obviously, there is little point breaking out the diagram if a person is not seeking. I treat everyone differently, and do not always use the diagram, certainly not until a certain point.</p>
<p>In the case of those who are not seeking, I will share the Gospel, but in different ways, and I like to do a lot of listening. Do they consider themselves spiritual? Why? Good? Why? Sometimes talking about the four major components of worldsviews is helpful. Where did we come from? What went wrong? What is the solution? Where are we going? But in a more conversation way. The more I know about where they are and what they really believe the better equipped I am to apply the gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Shuman</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/08/23/assurance/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Shuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 03:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joe for the encouraging article.  Here is a question though, and maybe I already know the answer but bear with me.  I have a friend who doesn&#039;t even believe in God yet.  So our conversations often revolve around this issue, or the coherence of the Christian faith etc...  I know God sovereignly draws people and I&#039;m not discounting that.  But where does this fit into the scheme of things or do you have any wisdom in this area?  It seems that this model is very suited to someone who is a nominal christian, or raised christian so they believe somewhat in the God of the bible.  But what of those who are completely unchurched in our society?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe for the encouraging article.  Here is a question though, and maybe I already know the answer but bear with me.  I have a friend who doesn&#8217;t even believe in God yet.  So our conversations often revolve around this issue, or the coherence of the Christian faith etc&#8230;  I know God sovereignly draws people and I&#8217;m not discounting that.  But where does this fit into the scheme of things or do you have any wisdom in this area?  It seems that this model is very suited to someone who is a nominal christian, or raised christian so they believe somewhat in the God of the bible.  But what of those who are completely unchurched in our society?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney McCarty</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/08/23/assurance/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney McCarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bro - similar in some aspects, but major differences around Ground Zero!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bro &#8211; similar in some aspects, but major differences around Ground Zero!</p>
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