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	<title>Comments on: For the Record</title>
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		<title>By: nelmezzo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On the Culture War</title>
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		<dc:creator>nelmezzo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On the Culture War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HT: I found a link to Driscoll&#8217;s post on Joe Thorn&#8217;s blog. Joe Thorn is the one who coined the phrase that pefectly describes my own stance toward the culture war: I&#8217;m a conscientious objector in the Culture War. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] HT: I found a link to Driscoll&#8217;s post on Joe Thorn&#8217;s blog. Joe Thorn is the one who coined the phrase that pefectly describes my own stance toward the culture war: I&#8217;m a conscientious objector in the Culture War. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ryan wentzel &#187; Highlights 11-01-2005</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan wentzel &#187; Highlights 11-01-2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe Thorn follows up For the Record with For the Record 2.0. I&#8217;m in agreement with much of what Joe has written in these two posts.      Posted In General &#124; [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joe Thorn follows up For the Record with For the Record 2.0. I&#8217;m in agreement with much of what Joe has written in these two posts.      Posted In General | [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ryan wentzel</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/09/22/for-the-record/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan wentzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Highlights 11-01-2005&lt;/strong&gt;

	Starting today I will periodically write a post that links to posts on other blogs I&#8217;ve found interesting. Here&#8217;s a few highlights:

	Are You a Hamster? by Dan Edelen. Dan discusses multitasking and the all around busyness of life in this...</description>
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<p>	Starting today I will periodically write a post that links to posts on other blogs I&#8217;ve found interesting. Here&#8217;s a few highlights:</p>
<p>	Are You a Hamster? by Dan Edelen. Dan discusses multitasking and the all around busyness of life in this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Thorn</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/09/22/for-the-record/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

My issue is not with the phrase as much as it is the approach. I am not suggesting that every culture warrior&#039;s motives are bad. And let&#039;s say that some evangelicals are reacting to other evangelicals &quot;absorption&quot; of culture. That is a problem itself. It&#039;s reactionary, and the pendulum has swung out to far. I do not think the church should take over the culture, but can work for its redemption as a counter-culture within the culture. And if we do this well we will at times be praised and at times cursed.

The culture warriors look like politicians positioning for power, supporting political parties as if they were God&#039;s second church.

They are shocked that the world hates them because they think America is the New Jerusalem, and everyone should realize this is God&#039;s Country. But the funny thing is, much of the time they are not persecuted/hated because of Jesus, but because of their caustic, cold, judgmental tone toward sinners. They often speak without redeeming words and without love. Why? Because it&#039;s a war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>My issue is not with the phrase as much as it is the approach. I am not suggesting that every culture warrior&#8217;s motives are bad. And let&#8217;s say that some evangelicals are reacting to other evangelicals &#8220;absorption&#8221; of culture. That is a problem itself. It&#8217;s reactionary, and the pendulum has swung out to far. I do not think the church should take over the culture, but can work for its redemption as a counter-culture within the culture. And if we do this well we will at times be praised and at times cursed.</p>
<p>The culture warriors look like politicians positioning for power, supporting political parties as if they were God&#8217;s second church.</p>
<p>They are shocked that the world hates them because they think America is the New Jerusalem, and everyone should realize this is God&#8217;s Country. But the funny thing is, much of the time they are not persecuted/hated because of Jesus, but because of their caustic, cold, judgmental tone toward sinners. They often speak without redeeming words and without love. Why? Because it&#8217;s a war.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/09/22/for-the-record/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I wouldn&#039;t say that.  And I have to admit that I&#039;m not exactly sure what your issue is here.  It&#039;s the evangelical tendency to bash in the culture&#039;s skull when they act like sinners (shocking they do this, I know) that makes me run from terms like &quot;culture war.&quot;  I&#039;m a culture redeemer, not a culture warrior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I wouldn&#8217;t say that.  And I have to admit that I&#8217;m not exactly sure what your issue is here.  It&#8217;s the evangelical tendency to bash in the culture&#8217;s skull when they act like sinners (shocking they do this, I know) that makes me run from terms like &#8220;culture war.&#8221;  I&#8217;m a culture redeemer, not a culture warrior.</p>
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