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	<title>Comments on: Tough Guys</title>
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		<title>By: Marcguyver</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/10/05/tough-guys/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcguyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if what you say isn&#039;t true then those of us with a conscience wouldn&#039;t still &#039;feel&#039; bad after we&#039;ve smacked somone around or stand over their lifeless corpse; even though the action on our behalf was completely justified.  Weird eh?  I mean hypothetically speaking, you wouldn&#039;t think that you&#039;d ever &#039;feel&#039; bad for beating up some child rapist or other such &#039;scum&#039;, but I&#039;ve found that I still do care about what was done.
You&#039;ve made a good point man, and this was an oustanding topic!

Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if what you say isn&#8217;t true then those of us with a conscience wouldn&#8217;t still &#8216;feel&#8217; bad after we&#8217;ve smacked somone around or stand over their lifeless corpse; even though the action on our behalf was completely justified.  Weird eh?  I mean hypothetically speaking, you wouldn&#8217;t think that you&#8217;d ever &#8216;feel&#8217; bad for beating up some child rapist or other such &#8216;scum&#8217;, but I&#8217;ve found that I still do care about what was done.<br />
You&#8217;ve made a good point man, and this was an oustanding topic!</p>
<p>Blessings</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Thorn</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/10/05/tough-guys/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

My thinking has not changed on this, in fact I think some have missed my point. You have summarized some of my thoughts well, and I would add that war/violence is sometimes necessary.

I just believe that we as Christians shouldn&#039;t pretend to be &quot;tough guys.&quot; Some of us were before conversion, some of us never were. But the tough guy mentality is worldly, lacks biblical compassion, mercy, and for most it is fake. It does not reflect the character of Christ.

Bottom line: If a woman was being raped, an innocent being beaten, etc. I believe I would step in and do whatever I could to stop it. That may mean violence. Violence is sometimes necessary. My concern has tbeen with men&#039;s attitudes toward violence in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>My thinking has not changed on this, in fact I think some have missed my point. You have summarized some of my thoughts well, and I would add that war/violence is sometimes necessary.</p>
<p>I just believe that we as Christians shouldn&#8217;t pretend to be &#8220;tough guys.&#8221; Some of us were before conversion, some of us never were. But the tough guy mentality is worldly, lacks biblical compassion, mercy, and for most it is fake. It does not reflect the character of Christ.</p>
<p>Bottom line: If a woman was being raped, an innocent being beaten, etc. I believe I would step in and do whatever I could to stop it. That may mean violence. Violence is sometimes necessary. My concern has tbeen with men&#8217;s attitudes toward violence in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcguyver</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/10/05/tough-guys/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcguyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Joe, I&#039;m curious, after all this &quot;debate&quot; above, have you changed any of your thinking or beliefs on your original post?

Also, what&#039;s your &#039;bottom-line&#039; on this.  Say for instance, what should our response be hypothetically speaking, when confronted with the reality of having to possibly assault another or end a human life?

It seems that you are pretty much saying that as Christians we shouldn&#039;t be so &#039;flippant&#039; or &#039;nonchalant&#039; about it and consider the cost before conducting ourselves in such a manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Joe, I&#8217;m curious, after all this &#8220;debate&#8221; above, have you changed any of your thinking or beliefs on your original post?</p>
<p>Also, what&#8217;s your &#8216;bottom-line&#8217; on this.  Say for instance, what should our response be hypothetically speaking, when confronted with the reality of having to possibly assault another or end a human life?</p>
<p>It seems that you are pretty much saying that as Christians we shouldn&#8217;t be so &#8216;flippant&#8217; or &#8216;nonchalant&#8217; about it and consider the cost before conducting ourselves in such a manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Thorn</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/10/05/tough-guys/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man. I will check it out tonight after Theology Pub. Thanks for visiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man. I will check it out tonight after Theology Pub. Thanks for visiting.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlueRaja</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2005/10/05/tough-guys/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBlueRaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

Thought you might be interested in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/10/doctrinal-politics.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; post  &lt;/a&gt; at my blog about how the attitude you&#039;re talking about affects doctrinal discussions of any kind.  I&#039;d be interested to hear your comments, as well as those of your readers.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Thought you might be interested in a <a href="http://greensoylent.blogspot.com/2005/10/doctrinal-politics.html" rel="nofollow"> post  </a> at my blog about how the attitude you&#8217;re talking about affects doctrinal discussions of any kind.  I&#8217;d be interested to hear your comments, as well as those of your readers.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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