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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;You Better Come Heavy&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read all the comments, so I don&#039;t know if someone has already said this or not.  Forgive me if this is redundant.

I am a student at Southern Seminary, and I think it may be possible that the picture is of a servant evangelism project.  I don&#039;t know this for sure, but I do know that Reaching Out Louisville (the once a semester event where the seminary community as a whole is invited to participate in evangelistic activity) has servant evangelism projects.  With that many people at one house, it seems more likely to me that this was a group of people offering to do some kind of job, like raking leaves or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read all the comments, so I don&#8217;t know if someone has already said this or not.  Forgive me if this is redundant.</p>
<p>I am a student at Southern Seminary, and I think it may be possible that the picture is of a servant evangelism project.  I don&#8217;t know this for sure, but I do know that Reaching Out Louisville (the once a semester event where the seminary community as a whole is invited to participate in evangelistic activity) has servant evangelism projects.  With that many people at one house, it seems more likely to me that this was a group of people offering to do some kind of job, like raking leaves or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,
Actually, I don&#039;t think that guy is a lost person. He looks like an old doctoral classmate of mine.  That&#039;s the problem with doing evangelism in Louisville . . . you&#039;ll end up witnessing to a guy who has an M.Div. from Southern Seminary!  :)

And you guys better hold down all the criticism of &quot;door-to-door&quot; evangelism before Ergun Caner shows up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,<br />
Actually, I don&#8217;t think that guy is a lost person. He looks like an old doctoral classmate of mine.  That&#8217;s the problem with doing evangelism in Louisville . . . you&#8217;ll end up witnessing to a guy who has an M.Div. from Southern Seminary!  :)</p>
<p>And you guys better hold down all the criticism of &#8220;door-to-door&#8221; evangelism before Ergun Caner shows up!</p>
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		<title>By: clint</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2006/02/28/302/#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks Joe for the welcoming words.

I am very passionate about this stuff because of my own experiences in ministry. I pastored a church that was highly dysfunctional and disunified.

We finally closed the church down last year, it was so screwed up. But the good news is that out of the rubble came a new church that is doing well, even though I&#039;m not part of it physically anymore.

So yeah, I&#039;m a little burned, and burned out still.

However, it seems like everywhere I go, I see signs of a lack of leadership, vision, and direction. It is interesting to analyze churches here in the UK too.

So I am trying to put the discussion about evangelism into context, even though I know the original posting was done to emphasize the irony of it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks Joe for the welcoming words.</p>
<p>I am very passionate about this stuff because of my own experiences in ministry. I pastored a church that was highly dysfunctional and disunified.</p>
<p>We finally closed the church down last year, it was so screwed up. But the good news is that out of the rubble came a new church that is doing well, even though I&#8217;m not part of it physically anymore.</p>
<p>So yeah, I&#8217;m a little burned, and burned out still.</p>
<p>However, it seems like everywhere I go, I see signs of a lack of leadership, vision, and direction. It is interesting to analyze churches here in the UK too.</p>
<p>So I am trying to put the discussion about evangelism into context, even though I know the original posting was done to emphasize the irony of it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2006/02/28/302/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmy Brister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Southern student who desires to be passionate about evangelism.  My journey in learning to share the gospel began first with going door-to-door.  I can remember that I used to make goals that I wanted to see X number of people saved by the end of the year, and used cold-turkey evangelism methods to do that.  When the year ended, I saw many people &quot;accept Christ&quot; but it ended at that.  Ultimately, I can say that there was little to any &quot;fruit that remains&quot; as a result.

When I was a student minister, I trained students in sharing their faith door to door.  It taught them to be courageous, bold yet humble, truthful yet objective.  They handled objections, wept for people&#039;s lostness, and understood that there was a world next door that needed Jesus.  Those were experiences and memories that I will never forget.

But let me say that the greatest lesson I have learned is that effective evangelism must take place through relationships.  If you don&#039;t have a foundation of a genuine, loving friendship, the gospel more than like will not take root in their life.  While at Southern, I have chosen to not work on staff at a church because I want to be around as many unbelievers as possible on a daily basis, so I chose UPS (where there are about 5,000 around the time I work).  This has led to many fruitful relationships, some even leading to their conversion.  The great thing about it, however, is that we meet weekly for Bible study and are currently going through Grudem&#039;s Systematic.  This could not have happened unless the framework and foundation of a loving, genuine friendship.

I think that both are viable evangelistic methods; however, it is obvious that one is more effective than the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Southern student who desires to be passionate about evangelism.  My journey in learning to share the gospel began first with going door-to-door.  I can remember that I used to make goals that I wanted to see X number of people saved by the end of the year, and used cold-turkey evangelism methods to do that.  When the year ended, I saw many people &#8220;accept Christ&#8221; but it ended at that.  Ultimately, I can say that there was little to any &#8220;fruit that remains&#8221; as a result.</p>
<p>When I was a student minister, I trained students in sharing their faith door to door.  It taught them to be courageous, bold yet humble, truthful yet objective.  They handled objections, wept for people&#8217;s lostness, and understood that there was a world next door that needed Jesus.  Those were experiences and memories that I will never forget.</p>
<p>But let me say that the greatest lesson I have learned is that effective evangelism must take place through relationships.  If you don&#8217;t have a foundation of a genuine, loving friendship, the gospel more than like will not take root in their life.  While at Southern, I have chosen to not work on staff at a church because I want to be around as many unbelievers as possible on a daily basis, so I chose UPS (where there are about 5,000 around the time I work).  This has led to many fruitful relationships, some even leading to their conversion.  The great thing about it, however, is that we meet weekly for Bible study and are currently going through Grudem&#8217;s Systematic.  This could not have happened unless the framework and foundation of a loving, genuine friendship.</p>
<p>I think that both are viable evangelistic methods; however, it is obvious that one is more effective than the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Noakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Noakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would probably let them all in and play with their minds. Just because I&#039;m a jerk like that.</description>
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