Preaching Worth Hearing 2

by Joe Thorn on September 14, 2006

Yesterday I read Steve Sjogren’s article encouraging pastors to spend less time preparing to preach their own messages, and to simply repackage the sermons of other, more popular pastors. Ray Van Neste responded with biblical bewilderment and took on the ideas of pride and performance. I asked what some of you thought and the response was essentially the same: Sjogren’s idea is a bad one. There are a lot of issues I would like to address from the article, but I will keep it simple.

Sjogren believes that most preachers today are trying to be original. He wrote, “We need to get over the idea that we have to be completely original with our messages, each and every week. In my mind there is a tremendous amount of pride (let’s call it what it is) when we insist on being completely original as communicators.” I actually agree with these two sentences, but I do not know any preachers who want to be “completely original.” And were it a real problem among preachers today the answer would not be in cribbing another’s sermon, but laboring to preach well. Preaching is not about originality, but prophecy. 414 years ago William Perkins explained,

Prophecy (prophesying) is a solemn, public, utterance by the prophet, related to the worship of God and the salvation of our neighbours, as the following passages indicate: ‘But he who prophecies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men’ (1 Cor. 14:3). ‘But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all’ (1 Cor. 14:24).

… The preaching of the word is the testimony of God and the profession of the knowledge of Christ, not of human skill. Furthermore, the hearers ought not to ascribe their faith to the gifts of men, but to the power of Gods word.
Art of Prophesying, pp. 5, 71

And over 1500 years before that Paul wrote,

And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness and in fear and much trembling, and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
1 Cor. 2:1-5

I imagine Sjogren would agree with this, but his encouragement to primarily rely on the words of others, not for understanding, but even in communicating, seems to miss the real power and effectiveness behind preaching. How does this not imply that God cannot use the common man? How does this not undermine one’s confidence in the word while calling us to trust in lofty speech and the wisdom of men?

Should we conclude that the “ministry of the word” to which we must devote ourselves does not involve real study, but primarily the use of a script? Where does the passion of a preacher come from if his messages are not his own? Are we to expect that what God is teaching Rick Warren and those at his church is the same thing he wants to teach our church 2000 miles away in a completely different context? How does this not encourage laziness? How does this not discourage the young preacher whose gifts are still developing? And if one does opt to use another’s sermons, wouldn’t this retard his own development? Wouldn’t this eventually rob the church even of those men we are all supposed to be imitating?

Look, I will be the first to admit the preaching in our American churches needs to improve. Some of us need to remember that the bible is not a self-help book, while others must wake up to the reality that Scripture is not a systematic theology text. We need better preaching in our churches – I need to preach better at Grace – but this comes as men labor to know God and their people while proclaiming the Gospel of grace. People want to hear preachers who have something to say and believe what they say. We need experientially targeted, theologically established, words of grace to emanate from our pulpits that exalt Christ, and in doing so showing the way of redeemed humanity. We need men who are earnest in the pulpit, who love their people, who proclaim law and Gospel, who call us to repentance, who draw our hearts and minds to God in doxology. And I believe the path to such a place is walked as preachers spend time in the word, in the study, on their knees.

  • http://www.buzzardblog.typepad.com Justin Buzzard

    Amen! Spot on analysis and charge. Joe, do you know if this is what Sjogren does on a regular basis at his church–simply preach another’s sermon?

  • http://theviewfromosprey.blogspot.com/ Tom Bryant

    This is good stuff, Joe. Thanks

    One of the problems is that young preachers don’t have the advantage that older guys used to have. Before we ever got in the pulpit of our first church, we had preached alot at Rescue Missions and on street corners (eek, I’m not suggesting that at all). Now the young preacher is instantly compared to TV preachers like Charles Stanley and David Jeremiah. So the temptation to borrow, buy and steal others sermons is great

    But the issue is integrity. We must stand in front of our people with God’s message for them and that will only come in our study, in our personal devotions and on our knees. If preaching is “the communication of divine Truth through human Personality” as Brooks said, then we have too many preaching with another’s personality.

  • http://www.rvanneste.blogspot.com Ray Van Neste

    Hey Joe,
    I’m glad to see you taking up this issue, not simply because my article is involved but because I think it is a growing problem. The article grew out of three blog posts (1, 2, 3) from my blog last March. I continue to receive emails from people in various places who are struggling with the discovery that their pastors are preaching other men’s sermons. Typically they have confronted the pastor only to be rebuffed and told there is nothing wrong with it. Once the pastor said there is nothing wrong with it because Rick Warren says its ok (I’m not sure Warren would actually approve of this exact practice). This issue needs to be addressed for the integrity of the pastorate, the good of our people and the health of the church.

  • http://inathens.wordpress.com Matt Christenot

    Hey Joe,
    I’m a church planter in Lawrence, KS trying to plant a missional work. I’m young to be church planting I suppose (just turned 26) and my gifting is really more in the area of music and worship. Well, right now I’m all our core group has. I understand what it’s like not to have time to prepare long sermons (I’m also working on my masters at Midwestern.) Rather than taking other peoples sermons I’m just walking through the scriptures one chapter at a time with our group. I’m doing my best to be faithful to what I’m finding there and I’m learning everyday how to better interpret and share this with our group. I share this because I believe this approach has freed me from what would be a undoable task at this point, that is being “original.” We’ll, that’s all I have to say about that.

  • http://rvanneste.blogspot.com/ Ray Van Neste

    Amen Matt! The Lord bless you in that work.

  • http://www.heavenlyheartburn.blogspot.com Gordon Cloud

    This is a great article, as was Dr. Van Neste’s.

    Matt, God bless you in your labors.

  • http://www.provocationsandpantings.blogspot.com Timmy Brister

    “biblical bewilderment” – good word Joe. Oh, and plugging Perkins (and Paul of course) sold me hands down. But on a more serious note, my heart resonates with the thrust of your plea. The other day I happened to write about Machen and his essay on the minister and his Greek NT in which he argues that many preachers today are no longer specialists (in the Word) but managers. Do you think that the managerial nature of the CEO mentality in churches today applies pressure upon the “senior pastor” to lead and fulfill obligations that would not be a requisite of bibical shepherding? I fear that the primacy of preaching today is being eclipsed by the pragmatism of popular ministry. For a ministry to endure and overcome the rank novelty in our day, I believe that we as ministers must hold fast and true to the enduring, abiding Word of God – especially when it is out of season as it appears to be today. Thanks again for the good word man.

  • http://www.joethorn.net Joe Thorn

    Justin – I don’t know much about Sjogren beyond this article.

    Ray, I am blown away at all of this. Really. Good words on your blog!

    Matt, I believe God is honored in what you are doing. Keep it up brother.

    Timmy, yeah I think more and more people are seeing that the “professional” minister model easily deteriorates this aspect of ministry. I was taught in Bible College (and argued at length with this professor) that the pastor would be working 80 hours a week without sermon prep time. I told him I would walk away from “ministry” in a heart beat of that were the case – for the good of my family and the glory of God.

  • Jack

    I think a part of being prophetic is finding one’s voice. The shortest definition of preaching is “truth through personality,” and that can’t happen if I simply rely on somebody else’s stuff and voice. I can appreciate their voice, and learn from them, but I can’t be them.

  • http://www.rvanneste.blogspot.com Ray Van Neste

    Timmy,

    I think your exactly right. When Glenn Wagner confessed to preaching others sermons and resigned his pastorate in Charlotte, NC, he said something along the lines that he started preaching others sermons because he felt he was not able to keep up his creativity. That made me sad, because we probably have a good brother here sunk because he was laboring under unnecessary expectations. Our people don’t need our creativity or performance. They just need God and He is pleased to reveal Himself through His Word.

  • http://www.provocationsandpantings.blogspot.com Timmy Brister

    What strikes me is that the solution people are going to in an attempt to be more effective is the newest trend, technique, or niche-marketing of God and His Church. So much energy is spent trying to be relevant, programmatic, and attractive. I am not saying these are all bad, but I do believe we hvae put more stock in them than they deserve. Maybe the fickleness of those packing the pews today is an indictment of how little God’s people are being exposed to God’s Word. These are flighty days today, and the gravitas of God’s Word needs to be recovered through ministers returning to an uncompromising, unflinching, unapologetical commitment to exposing themselves deeply to God’s Word and richly expounding it to God’s people. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit and instumentality of God’s Word, the effectiveness so many are looking for will be found as God faithfully blesses His Word and builds His Church. This I long to see happen among our generation of preachers.

    It indeed is tragic today, Ray, that some many good ministers are being pressured into a managerial mold where the expectations of a minister are more dictative of the people than his Master. Having a proper understanding of the roles and responsibilities of a minister would be a good corrective and place to start if we want to curb the illigetimacy behind what was once called the sacred desk.

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