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	<title>Comments on: Boxing 101</title>
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		<title>By: Brad Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2007/09/19/boxing-101/#comment-3578</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One more thing, since I&#039;m talking about it.:)  Many of our church members are &quot;transplants.&quot;  That is, they came from Mississippi or Arkansas or Alabama for work here.  That means they are outsiders as well.  If you aren&#039;t careful, the church can become a little huddle of folks on the retreat from the perceived &quot;weirdness&quot; that is S. Louisiana.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, since I&#8217;m talking about it.:)  Many of our church members are &#8220;transplants.&#8221;  That is, they came from Mississippi or Arkansas or Alabama for work here.  That means they are outsiders as well.  If you aren&#8217;t careful, the church can become a little huddle of folks on the retreat from the perceived &#8220;weirdness&#8221; that is S. Louisiana.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2007/09/19/boxing-101/#comment-3577</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, no.  I&#039;m originally from Alabama, and you&#039;d think that would be sort of the same since we&#039;re both &quot;Southern.&quot;  But I always tell people that we&#039;re actually below the Bible belt.  It&#039;s a different world once you get south of interstate 10.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example, in Alabama, the majority of the folks are &quot;evangelical.&quot;  Even folks who aren&#039;t active in a church would sort of default to an evangelical mindset, or at least be at ease around evangelical thought.  Here, the default is Roman Catholic, and the heritage is French, not English.  Only two generations ago, there were children who entered grammar school here without knowing English.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s how that matters:  in Alabama, Baptist type folks feel very confident in proclaiming their views b/c the average guy knows that most folks will at least nod when they take the soapbox.  Here, that confidence is lacking b/c of the differences.  It&#039;s easy to go into a sort of &quot;retreat&quot; mode when you are a serious minority, and if you don&#039;t do that, then you will compromise on your distinctives.  (And I&#039;m not talking about views on alcohol or playing bingo when I mention distinctives, just to be clear.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The biggest thing to realize in this situation, I think, is that it simply takes time.  Folks have to get used to you, and it takes time to &quot;get known&quot; in the community.  I&#039;m still not where I&#039;d like to be, and there is much that needs to be addressed inside our fellowship as well.  So pray for me that I&#039;ll be faithful and find a way to equip our folks to meaningfully interact with the community in order to share the gospel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Actually, no.  I&#8217;m originally from Alabama, and you&#8217;d think that would be sort of the same since we&#8217;re both &#8220;Southern.&#8221;  But I always tell people that we&#8217;re actually below the Bible belt.  It&#8217;s a different world once you get south of interstate 10.  </p>
<p>For example, in Alabama, the majority of the folks are &#8220;evangelical.&#8221;  Even folks who aren&#8217;t active in a church would sort of default to an evangelical mindset, or at least be at ease around evangelical thought.  Here, the default is Roman Catholic, and the heritage is French, not English.  Only two generations ago, there were children who entered grammar school here without knowing English.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how that matters:  in Alabama, Baptist type folks feel very confident in proclaiming their views b/c the average guy knows that most folks will at least nod when they take the soapbox.  Here, that confidence is lacking b/c of the differences.  It&#8217;s easy to go into a sort of &#8220;retreat&#8221; mode when you are a serious minority, and if you don&#8217;t do that, then you will compromise on your distinctives.  (And I&#8217;m not talking about views on alcohol or playing bingo when I mention distinctives, just to be clear.)</p>
<p>The biggest thing to realize in this situation, I think, is that it simply takes time.  Folks have to get used to you, and it takes time to &#8220;get known&#8221; in the community.  I&#8217;m still not where I&#8217;d like to be, and there is much that needs to be addressed inside our fellowship as well.  So pray for me that I&#8217;ll be faithful and find a way to equip our folks to meaningfully interact with the community in order to share the gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: William Hooper</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2007/09/19/boxing-101/#comment-3576</link>
		<dc:creator>William Hooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very thoughtful presentation.  However, I always react to criticisms of tradition for it usually means throw everything out the window. I would point out that anything can become tradition.  Sometimes what we come up with outside the box becomes its own tradition.  We need to remember that there is a historical Christian tradition that has spanned over 2000 years. The people quoted were more critical of how they thought the Gospel had been distorted, not Christian tradition as such.  The distorted Gospel had become a tradition. Just be careful how far out of the box you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very thoughtful presentation.  However, I always react to criticisms of tradition for it usually means throw everything out the window. I would point out that anything can become tradition.  Sometimes what we come up with outside the box becomes its own tradition.  We need to remember that there is a historical Christian tradition that has spanned over 2000 years. The people quoted were more critical of how they thought the Gospel had been distorted, not Christian tradition as such.  The distorted Gospel had become a tradition. Just be careful how far out of the box you go.</p>
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		<title>By: Links for Friday &#171; CA DAWG Thoughts and Links</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2007/09/19/boxing-101/#comment-3575</link>
		<dc:creator>Links for Friday &#171; CA DAWG Thoughts and Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This blog discusses thinking outside the box and why that may not always be the right things to do. [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Peter Park</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2007/09/19/boxing-101/#comment-3574</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All we can do is pray and follow the Holy Spirit&#039;s leading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All we can do is pray and follow the Holy Spirit&#8217;s leading.</p>
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