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		<title>By: Richard Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3878</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read most of this book and have included my recommendation on my Website www.churchoftheway.us
I have left two of the traditional Churches and some of those that left with me still meet over a potluck meal with Bible study. I think it&#039;s time to go back to the Church as practiced during the Apostles time. As 1 Peter 2:9 says:
  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:
We are a &quot;Royal Priesthood&quot; and the Holy Spirit guides each of us and gives us the gifts necessary for the Church to thrive and function. We should leave Jesus Christ as our head and not replace Him with anyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read most of this book and have included my recommendation on my Website <a href="http://www.churchoftheway.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.churchoftheway.us</a><br />
I have left two of the traditional Churches and some of those that left with me still meet over a potluck meal with Bible study. I think it&#8217;s time to go back to the Church as practiced during the Apostles time. As 1 Peter 2:9 says:<br />
  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:<br />
We are a &#8220;Royal Priesthood&#8221; and the Holy Spirit guides each of us and gives us the gifts necessary for the Church to thrive and function. We should leave Jesus Christ as our head and not replace Him with anyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan H</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3877</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the book is a ground swell to rethink and reconsider how we &quot;do church&quot;. It is healthy to have an open and honest forum without personal attacks. The book does not criticize any leader,Pastor, etc.  It does causes one to get off the fence and find out not only where you stand but on whom you stand. What does it really mean that Christ is the only foundation? Is the Church building with hay wood or stubble or His very life.  If you closed down the regular meetings of a traditional church or house church or whatever kind of church you attend for three months would the people still meet because they have a deep love for the Lord and each other. Is He the foundation or someother &quot;thing &quot;or &quot;it &quot;that keeps us together. Time and the cross will find out what we are really made of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the book is a ground swell to rethink and reconsider how we &#8220;do church&#8221;. It is healthy to have an open and honest forum without personal attacks. The book does not criticize any leader,Pastor, etc.  It does causes one to get off the fence and find out not only where you stand but on whom you stand. What does it really mean that Christ is the only foundation? Is the Church building with hay wood or stubble or His very life.  If you closed down the regular meetings of a traditional church or house church or whatever kind of church you attend for three months would the people still meet because they have a deep love for the Lord and each other. Is He the foundation or someother &#8220;thing &#8220;or &#8220;it &#8220;that keeps us together. Time and the cross will find out what we are really made of.</p>
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		<title>By: clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3876</link>
		<dc:creator>clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have all of Franks books, just more idealism, there is no spititual nirvana on earth. With so many frustrated, anxiety driven christians today nobody knows what they are really looking for. Love, humility, simplicity can be found in churches where Christ is the Head and everybody else regardless of position are His assistants. I have travelled throughout the country visiting all kinds of churches and denomiantions and have found that Christ is most present in the churches that are led by a body of beleivers under Christ. It will surprrise Frank I&#039;m sure that many of those places reflect a ancient kind of faith which would be seen as pagan  from his perspective. The house church movement and its leaders can be just as arrogant and controlling and manipulitive as those he criticizes in Pagan Christianity. Praise God for the many healthy institutional church bodys in the USA and for the servants who lead the church on their knees. This kind of book can do more harm to the body for people are prone to naturally rebel and scatter. Then there will be an aftermath of disjointed broken Christians with no loving support system to be there in the hard times of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have all of Franks books, just more idealism, there is no spititual nirvana on earth. With so many frustrated, anxiety driven christians today nobody knows what they are really looking for. Love, humility, simplicity can be found in churches where Christ is the Head and everybody else regardless of position are His assistants. I have travelled throughout the country visiting all kinds of churches and denomiantions and have found that Christ is most present in the churches that are led by a body of beleivers under Christ. It will surprrise Frank I&#8217;m sure that many of those places reflect a ancient kind of faith which would be seen as pagan  from his perspective. The house church movement and its leaders can be just as arrogant and controlling and manipulitive as those he criticizes in Pagan Christianity. Praise God for the many healthy institutional church bodys in the USA and for the servants who lead the church on their knees. This kind of book can do more harm to the body for people are prone to naturally rebel and scatter. Then there will be an aftermath of disjointed broken Christians with no loving support system to be there in the hard times of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Pagan Christianity Review Index &#124; nathangann.com</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3875</link>
		<dc:creator>Pagan Christianity Review Index &#124; nathangann.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 03:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] God Grown review. &#8211; iMonk’s humorous review. &#8211; Joe Thorn has four reviews so far: Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4 &#8211; Jordon Cooper review. &#8211; Josh Brown podcast with Frank here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] God Grown review. &#8211; iMonk’s humorous review. &#8211; Joe Thorn has four reviews so far: Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4 &#8211; Jordon Cooper review. &#8211; Josh Brown podcast with Frank here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwi and an Emu. &#187; Imonk, Peterson, Von Hugel et al barking up the wrong tree.</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3874</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwi and an Emu. &#187; Imonk, Peterson, Von Hugel et al barking up the wrong tree.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Spencer is not an inerrantist nor a complementarian, so maybe he&#8217;s not a good example). Others do cast an evaluative eye over their own Church systems and acknowledge the need for some cha.... But the idea of a complete overhaul and maybe even getting rid of one-man preaching – preaching, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spencer is not an inerrantist nor a complementarian, so maybe he&#8217;s not a good example). Others do cast an evaluative eye over their own Church systems and acknowledge the need for some cha&#8230;. But the idea of a complete overhaul and maybe even getting rid of one-man preaching – preaching, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Thorn</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3873</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for stopping by - and the very long &quot;comment&quot; that you are copying and pasting at other blogs. I have edited it since I don&#039;t encourage that kind of drive by commenting. If people are interested, they can read Jon&#039;s comment at Bob&#039;s blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://bobhyatt.typepad.com/bobblog/2008/01/so-call-me-a--1.html#comment-96490298&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Jon, if you want to talk with the readers of this blog here, feel free to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thanks for stopping by &#8211; and the very long &#8220;comment&#8221; that you are copying and pasting at other blogs. I have edited it since I don&#8217;t encourage that kind of drive by commenting. If people are interested, they can read Jon&#8217;s comment at Bob&#8217;s blog <a href="http://bobhyatt.typepad.com/bobblog/2008/01/so-call-me-a--1.html#comment-96490298" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Jon, if you want to talk with the readers of this blog here, feel free to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Zens</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3872</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Zens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been the editor of Searching Together (formerly called Baptist Reformation Review) for 30 years.  I&#039;m one of those who has endorsed Frank and George&#039;s book PAGAN CHRISTIANITY along with Howard Snyder, Robert Banks, Graydon Snyder, David Norrington, and other respected historians and professors...

[&lt;strong&gt;edited by Joe Thorn&lt;/strong&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been the editor of Searching Together (formerly called Baptist Reformation Review) for 30 years.  I&#8217;m one of those who has endorsed Frank and George&#8217;s book PAGAN CHRISTIANITY along with Howard Snyder, Robert Banks, Graydon Snyder, David Norrington, and other respected historians and professors&#8230;</p>
<p>[<strong>edited by Joe Thorn</strong>]</p>
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		<title>By: relevintage - a blog by brad andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3871</link>
		<dc:creator>relevintage - a blog by brad andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] book is getting significant buzz in the &#8217;sphere. See Joe Thorn&#8217;s comments here, here, and here; Trevin Wax&#8217;s here; Brant Hansen&#8217;s here, and iMonk&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] book is getting significant buzz in the &#8217;sphere. See Joe Thorn&#8217;s comments here, here, and here; Trevin Wax&#8217;s here; Brant Hansen&#8217;s here, and iMonk&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwi and an Emu. &#187; Blog Ripples No. 1.</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwi and an Emu. &#187; Blog Ripples No. 1.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for them to read and review.  And there have been a few.  Here&#8217;s an incomplete list: Pastor Joe Thorn, theheresy, Letters from Kamp Krusty, Kingdom People, Dash House, The Kingdom Come, Sue&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for them to read and review.  And there have been a few.  Here&#8217;s an incomplete list: Pastor Joe Thorn, theheresy, Letters from Kamp Krusty, Kingdom People, Dash House, The Kingdom Come, Sue&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: theheresy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pagan Christianity, the church and scripture</title>
		<link>http://www.joethorn.net/2008/01/01/pagan-christianity/#comment-3869</link>
		<dc:creator>theheresy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pagan Christianity, the church and scripture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on what some people are saying there is my friend Dash: Post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4, Joe Thorn Intro, Part 1, Part 2, Alan Hirsh,Trevin Wax and I&#8217;m assuming iMonk.&#160; There is lots more to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on what some people are saying there is my friend Dash: Post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4, Joe Thorn Intro, Part 1, Part 2, Alan Hirsh,Trevin Wax and I&#8217;m assuming iMonk.&nbsp; There is lots more to be [...]</p>
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