Pagan Christianity on Worship

by Joe Thorn on January 9, 2008

Chapter 3 of Pagan Christianity is the dismissal of the traditional “order of worship.” Barna and Viola cite no true “pagan” background for this order, but simply call it “pagan” (75) and assert that it can be traced back to the middle ages and the Roman Catholic church. They lay out the pagan, traditional order of worship as generally consisting of:

Prayer, and/or the reading of scripture
Some sort of worship in song
Offering
The sermon
Communion, or some other feature (altar call, etc).
Benediction

However, the earliest order of worship recorded outside of Scripture is found in Justin Martyr’s Apology (circa A. D. 140), and consisted of a gathering on Sunday that typically followed this way:

1. The reading of Scripture
2. An address/sermon
3. Corporate prayer
4. Communion
5. Collection for the poor.
(See Martyr’s Apology Ch. LXVII, or Christian Worship by Franklin Segler).

This is pretty close to what we are doing today.

Viola and Barna skip over this piece of history, and then assert the Protestant Reformation did not bring about the change that was so necessary to our worship. “The protestant order of worship is largely unscriptural, impractical and unspiritual” and “it does not lead to the spiritual growth God intended.” (pp 75, 77)

The authors have a number of concerns about the “traditional order of worship.”

1. It is predictable and boring. “For many Christians, the Sunday service is shamefully boring. It is without variety or spontaneity. It is highly predictable, highly perfunctory, and highly mechanical. The order of worship is so ingrained in protestant churches that even if the liturgy is unwritten it is “just as mechanical and predictable as if it were set to print.” (48)

I would argue that predictability is the unavoidable outcome of any regular gathering where the same people assemble for any period of time. This is especially true when certain things are expected to happen (reading of Scripture, prayer for leaders, teaching, etc.). Whether in a home without an established order that encourages spontaneity, or in a traditional worship gathering, people will begin to anticipate what is going to happen. They will know what to expect.

Having said that, I also believe variety is valuable and that it’s important to allow for spontaneity and change in our gatherings. We work at this at Redeemer, though we clearly follow the traditional order of worship and Barna and Viola would argue consequently we are doing spiritual harm to our members (see below).

2. It silences the body and demands passivity from the majority of the church. The “Protestant order of worship represses mutual participation and the growth of the Christian community. It puts a choke hold on the functioning of the body of Christ by silencing its members. There is absolutely no room for anyone to give a word of exhortation, share an insight, start or introduce a song, or spontaneously lead a prayer. You are forced to be a muted, staid pewholder.” (75)

I genuinely appreciate the authors’ desire to see every member functioning, and I agree that the church should gather in such a way that allows for mutual exhortation. I would also go so far as to say that if a local church only allows for the Sunday morning gathering, Christians are probably missing out on very important aspects of the Christian life. But I think the authors are again overstating the problems and missing another option.

In the first century the church gathered in the Temple, in the synagogue and most often in homes (Acts 2:46; 5:42; 9:2, 20). Why? Because it no longer mattered where they met! They went to the Temple to gather in large groups, they met in the synagogue to hear the Scripture read, they met in homes for intimate fellowship, community and service – and to avoid persecution. As time passes, context and cultures change, and the meeting places of the church develop as well. That doesn’t mean that anything goes, but I am not convinced that the specific gathering place of the first century church is necesarilly prescriptive. At best, I would argue it is prescriptive on the level of principle, not exact practice.

3. It stops spiritual transformation. [The protestant order of worship] hinders spiritual transformation. It does so because (1) it encourages passivity, (2) it limits functioning, and (3) it implies putting in one hour per week is the key to the victorious Christian life.” (77)

Part of the problem here (besides the ridiculous 3rd point that is so over the top I get images of Sly Stallone turning his hat around in preparation for some arm wrestling) is a misunderstanding concerning the nature of preaching, hearing and the context for ministry and service.

First, I am convinced by Scripture that the word of God, used by the Holy Spirit, is the means by which God sanctifies his people (Jn 17:17, 2 Thess 2:13; Rom. 12:1, 2; ). Where the word is preached, spiritual transformation should be happening. Second, hearing the word should never be considered a passive experience. It demands the active engagement of the heart and mind, the will to search our actions and lives, and the discipline to apply what we hear to our own experience with great specificity. Here are some treatments of the subject of active listening to the word preached (George Whitefield, Philip Ryken). Third, since when is the body of Christ limited to ministering and serving in one setting? The church of Jesus Christ functions in different ways in different gatherings, in a variety of contexts throughout each week.

The relevant concerns for me are that we continue to push the church forward in active listening to the word preached, active service to the body and community, and of course that no one believe that any event or gathering – regardless of how it happens – is seen as the key to the “victorious Christian life.”

4. It is pulpit-centered. They take issue with the word preached as the center piece of the gathered church. I want to save most of my interaction with their ideas for the next chapter.

5. It strangles the headship of Jesus Christ. “The entire service is directed by one person. You are limited to the knowledge, gifting, and experience of one member of the body – the pastor. Where is the freedom for our Lord Jesus to speak through his body at will?” (76)

I do believe that many churches err in creating a celebrity, or elite, culture of leadership, and that many pastors are often too “jealous” for their pulpits and refuse to allow other preachers/teachers from their own fellowship to teach. There is much to say on this topic, but it’ll have to wait for the later chapters. These are all things to work against, but really – I just don’t view Jesus as a little brother whose freedom to move hinges on my willingness to let him out of a head-lock.

In the end, this is another chapter where I, and everyone in the Reformed community, share some of the concerns raised by the book, but the authors go too far by mis-diagnosing the problem. The problem is not the order of worship. In my estimation the greater problems are what fills the order order of worship (content), and how often, and in what ways, the church creates contexts to share our lives and gifts together. I also want to caution others to be careful when looking to at first-century examples of the church’s practice. We have to work hard at discerning between that which is descriptive of the first-century church, and what is prescriptive for all churches. After all, while the church primarily met in homes, it also forbade women from speaking at these gatherings. That which is descriptive is often implicitly prescriptive in principle, but not in exact practice.

{ 15 comments }

1 bill streger January 9, 2008 at 4:41 pm

You are my new hero for using an Over the Top reference in the blog post. I’m going to have to hit up Blockbuster on the way home now.

2 Joe Thorn January 9, 2008 at 5:16 pm

Oh Bill… please don’t let me be your excuse to watch a terrible movie. LOL.

3 Papias January 9, 2008 at 5:24 pm

Joe, Thanks for taking this book on. Good insights.

I find myself asking the question, “What is more important to the authors, that we follow what God has said is the way in which we are to worship Him, or are we more interested in effect or results of our worship?” These seem to be two separate questions.

They can argue that the church service is of pagan origin, but I think they need to back up that allegation. But they cannot then make arguements about their supposed “concerns”. They are using bad logic by doing so.

Oh yeah, and your “Over the top” reference, I got it. :)

4 Ali January 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm

Thanks for the continuing review, Joe. I am of the opinion that, while preaching a sermon in a Christian meeting has been greatly used by God, it also has little to no Scriptural support (no matter what Justin Martyr did). I’m just sad that Viola’s Barna-approved way of discussing it is so…unhelpful.

I’ll be interested in your thoughts on this in your later posts.

5 Eduardo January 10, 2008 at 4:27 am

Joe,

Thanks for your thoughts and analysis on this book. I just want to know if there is ana genda behind Barna`s book. Are they trying to back the emergent church`s thoughts on ecclesiology. When you read thing like: pulpit centered and stopping the developing of believer`s spirituality… It`s like reading Doug Pagitt`s critique on preaching in Preaching Re-Imagined…or speaching as he would call it.

Have you given some thoughts to that while reading Barna`s book? I just wondered regardng your analysis on this chapter. Thanks again.

6 Bob January 10, 2008 at 8:22 am

Let’s be careful- Doug Pagitt isn’t advocating the kind of free-form, quaker style, home church Viola is.

Doug preaches. He also allows time at the end for open discussion.

Our church, evergreen, does something similar. I (and the other elders) PREACH. I use a manuscript. But throughout the sermon I ask questions (and actually wait for responses), make room for some dialogue and always end by asking the whole community “What do you think? What does this passage do to you? What questions or comments do you have?”

That’s why I find the whole either/or of Viola’s argument very frustrating. It doesn’t have to be EITHER a sermon where only one person speaks OR a free form, unprepared, open-ended meeting.

Somewhere in the middle is intentional movements through passages of Scripture with those who have the gift of teaching leading the community in a dialogical sermon that preaches as well as engages and makes room for all the kinds of stuff Viola is saying never happens in a “sermon.”

7 Joe Thorn January 10, 2008 at 8:55 am

Eduardo, I imagine what Pagan Christianity teaches resonates with some in the “emergent church,” just as it resonates with some outside of it. But many in the emergent church would be condemned with the rest of us by Viola’s book.

Bob, I too am frustrated by the either/or take. There is, of course, room for what you are talking about. But there is also a place – a necessary place IMO – for what they are calling “the sermon.” “preaching, biblically, takes many different forms. Some of which is dialogical, some of which is more one-way. I’ll be getting to the sermon stuff asap.

8 Bob January 10, 2008 at 9:25 am

Sure, sure- what I’m saying is that in the midst of most sermons, there’s room for questions, both from and to the one preaching. On this criticism I think Viola is correct- the one-way-only direction of most preaching isn’t optimum (IMHO).

However, his prescription (nothing but an open-ended, freestyle) doesn’t get it either.

9 Brad Williams January 10, 2008 at 10:31 am

Joe,

I’m looking forward to your development of pastoral “jealousy” over the pulpit and how pastors can avoid inadvertently cultivating a sort of cult of personality.

Just so you know, I’m planning on beginning a ministry to the men here to develop their pastoral gifts. I’ll be doing it in my home, and I’m working on the ‘curriculum’ now. I’ll let you know how it goes if you are interested.

10 Papias January 10, 2008 at 10:56 am

My earlier comments don’t seem to make sense now.

I do think that a time of Q&A after a sermon would be good, but not during a sermon.

Even if the speaker has prepared his sermon, and is under the guidance of the Holy Spirit during the delivery, then the sermon is still being developed and worked out, in a sense. Stopping that flow with a question may fall into the category of being “out of order”.

Just finished reading Martyn Lloyd-Jones “Preachers and Preaching”, so maybe I’m sounding old fashioned here…

And everyone should read Frank Viola’s responses to PC. His reason for writing his book sounds to me like postmodern deconstructionism.

11 Chuck January 10, 2008 at 11:17 am

As a pastor in a “Pagan Christian” church evidently, I believe in discussions based on the word. My link is to a downloadble manual on just that which I recommend.

But as you have so adequately noted, this book contains some of the wildest assertions.

It’s amazing to read books like “Augustine and the Catechumenate” and while he was involved in a “liturgy” his audience would cry out and complete bible verses he had started to quote, they’d shout when they heard their favorite bible stories, etc. It was quite participatory!

If you don’t think you can have pathological sinners destroy a house church, you must have an “ex opere operato” view of house church technique that believes in the infallibility of the right technique instead of the necessary work of the Spirit.

It’s amazing to see people comment on Justin who lived in the shadow of the apostles when their memories were still alive and calmly proclaim they don’t care what he thought because we supposedly know so much more about what the “New Testament Church” was like.

Good job on this review.

12 Eduardo January 10, 2008 at 4:51 pm

Bob,

I saw the most recent video posted at Solomon’s Porch and believ me, Pagitt’s church is more like: stand up and say what the message means to you kind of thing…It is scary!

Well but coming back to Viola’s book and Joe’s analysis, I havent read the book, and guess am going to have to do so just to see how “bad” things are…

Thanks again Joe!

13 C. Pridham January 10, 2008 at 6:09 pm

Joe,
I want to say that I appreciate you taking the time to comment on challenging books like Pagan Christianity. Like you I believe it is important to have conversations about the things we believe if we are to grow. In one of your comments on chapter 3 you say “The problem is not the order of worship. In my estimation the greater problems are what fills the order of worship (content).” Isn’t that the same as saying that the problem is not the wineskin but what fills the wineskin? It’s been my experience that real change is a very slow and difficult thing for the church and mankind in general to embrace. We always seem to want to fix things instead of moving on into the new. I believe that many of today’s church traditions started with life from above but when the life left, the tradition of it continued. Many Christians today pray that God will breath life back into the once living experience but now dead tradition. Why can’t we leave what is behind, appreciate the life we experienced in it, and continue the journey of the tent living pilgrim and sojourner into new life.

14 Joe Thorn January 10, 2008 at 6:59 pm

C.,

In principle I agree, though it would depend on exactly what we are talking about. If the church is holding onto a tradition that is neither biblically mandated, nor an effective means of carrying out the commands of Scripture, then let’s do away with it. For example, preaching must remain until the end, but the manner of preaching can change, so long as it is the engamemnent, explanation and application of Holy Scripture. The altar call is extra biblical, theologically confusing for those who use it, and tend to produce spurious fruit. It needed to go when it became in vogue to use it. So, yes, let’s drop extrabiblical activity if it is not glorifying to God and building up His people.

I think that Barna and Viola though wind up calling every traditional church (and this would include very non-traditional churches) invalid while implying that only a certain kind of house church expression is valid.

15 C. Pridham January 10, 2008 at 7:57 pm

Joe,
Thank you for that quick response. I think it is important when talking about the church to acknowledge the fact that the church is not simply a group of people but is the living expression of Jesus Christ on this earth. I believe what Barna and Viola are attempting to do is challenge those who have the life of Jesus Christ living within them (whether in a traditional, non-traditional or house church) To be free from dead traditions (not living experiences) we thought we had to follow. If free we will be able to find new and greater means of expressing the Light and Life that dwells within. I don’t think these men are trying to sell us a new way but simply point us to THE WAY who wants to function as our head.
Chris

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