Comments on: Preaching on Hell http://www.joethorn.net/2009/04/03/preaching-on-hell/ theology. church. culture. life. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:58:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joe Thorn http://www.joethorn.net/2009/04/03/preaching-on-hell/#comment-4898 Joe Thorn Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:53:36 +0000 http://www.joethorn.net/?p=1617#comment-4898 Well, thanks for the "respect" Dave. You seem to assume a few things about me that are not true. That I have not prayed through and labored over this doctrine for years. That my understanding of Greek is superficial or rudimentary, etc. The truth is I have agonized over this very doctrine both on my knees and in the word seeking to understand what Christ himself teaches, and yes I have done so with an acute awareness of the church's teaching on the subject throughout our history. Well, thanks for the “respect” Dave. You seem to assume a few things about me that are not true. That I have not prayed through and labored over this doctrine for years. That my understanding of Greek is superficial or rudimentary, etc. The truth is I have agonized over this very doctrine both on my knees and in the word seeking to understand what Christ himself teaches, and yes I have done so with an acute awareness of the church’s teaching on the subject throughout our history.

]]> By: Dave Lewerenz http://www.joethorn.net/2009/04/03/preaching-on-hell/#comment-4897 Dave Lewerenz Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:44:04 +0000 http://www.joethorn.net/?p=1617#comment-4897 With due respect.... Hell is the grave or the unseen, not a fiery torture chamber of eternity. The Holy Spirit has opened my eyes to many truths about what hell / lake of fire is and about the myth of free will. I won't go into specifics here, because it will just cause an argument... but if I may urge you to pray for discernment & truth, then also grab research deeper via a Greek Lexicon, Young's or Concordant Literal Bible and a clear mind, absent of the traditional teachings we have digested for the last 1700 years. One good human source of research material is http://martinzender.com - but seeking the Holy Spirit's enlightenment is the most important of course. Peace :) Dave Lewerenz With due respect…. Hell is the grave or the unseen, not a fiery torture chamber of eternity. The Holy Spirit has opened my eyes to many truths about what hell / lake of fire is and about the myth of free will.

I won’t go into specifics here, because it will just cause an argument… but if I may urge you to pray for discernment & truth, then also grab research deeper via a Greek Lexicon, Young’s or Concordant Literal Bible and a clear mind, absent of the traditional teachings we have digested for the last 1700 years.

One good human source of research material is http://martinzender.com – but seeking the Holy Spirit’s enlightenment is the most important of course.

Peace :)

Dave Lewerenz

]]> By: daniel abbey http://www.joethorn.net/2009/04/03/preaching-on-hell/#comment-4896 daniel abbey Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:54:05 +0000 http://www.joethorn.net/?p=1617#comment-4896 hi pastor, it's great to know that there are still guys like you who aren't afraid to preach the heavy stuff. in an age where people gather to themselves teachers that satisfy their itching ears, i'm encouraged by men who are willing to take a stand and preach on tough issues without compromise. God bless! hi pastor, it’s great to know that there are still guys like you who aren’t afraid to preach the heavy stuff. in an age where people gather to themselves teachers that satisfy their itching ears, i’m encouraged by men who are willing to take a stand and preach on tough issues without compromise. God bless!

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