There were 28 people there last night. We would like to have at least 50% people there from outside of Redeemer. Last night the breakdown was 40% “outsiders,” (Christian, non-Christian, etc), and 60% from Redeemer. This is pretty good for our second event, as we continue to build the culture of Theology Pub.
Our first dialog was on the question, “Is religion and/or spirituality dead in suburbia?” Last night’s discussion was on the meaning of life. Is there one grand purpose for all people, or only smaller, personally established goals/purposes? Can a person live without purpose?
The breakdown is hang out – talk, eat, drink, whatever.
5 Minute introduction to the topic
An hour of discussion – I ask questions and then facilitate the dialog. I do not teach or share many thoughts.
Brief wrap up – why the topic matters to us/me.
People hang around and talk, get to know each other.
This is all still new to us, so we are not experts. We just want to get people talking publicly about the things that really matter – and listening to each other.
It looks like the event was a success! Glad to see Redeemer fulfilling its name by redeeming the pub for kingdom purposes. I look forward to hearing more about it in the future.
Yeah, that’s pretty much it as far as talking to the pub. I shared a bit of vision, explained why I thought it would be good for the community and the pub itself.
We also spent a couple years considering the idea, talking to Jon McIntosh at The Journey, and we visited their gathering in STL. We had to figure out exactly what we were trying to do with this kind of thing.
I was talking about it on fri with friends, telling them of what you guys are doing & just saying it was a pretty good idea. I’m sure you face the reaction that many of them gave. . .negative. . .’what? in a pub…’ sort of thing.
Praying for it.
I’m sure there was alot of conversation & thought before hand.
Where do you envision it going?(stupid question really: people coming to Jesus!)
Just curious what the general reaction of unbelievers are when they find out a Pastor and some church members meet in a pub for theological discussion. Shocked? Mind-boggled? Curious? Interested?
This atmosphere of church goers meeting in a pub for book readings, theological discussions, etc happen quite frequently up here in ultra-liberal Portland, Oregon.
I’ll be honest: I still feel quite uncomfortable when I see the pics of beer on the table over a discussion of theology. I’m genuinely curious: why beer and not a Coke?
The response from unbelievers has been very positive. They hear what we’re doing and are at least for it, and at best they want to come and participate. They aren’t shocked. But curious and interested – yep. I have heard from others that it’s a safe place to dialog without hearing a one-sided hard sell. People need to work it out, talk these things out.
And I don’t think it’s not beer vs coke. It’s beer, coke and every other good thing God gives us. By the way – you can get a coke or water at the pub. We choose the pub because over, say a coffee house because a good pub like this has food, drink, and great atmosphere. This pub has an amazing “upper room” (oh yes, I just said it) with plenty of seats. We will be able to pull in 50 or more people into this space. This is not possible in a local coffee house. There’s more to it, but you get the idea.
I’ve covered the whole alcohol discussion on the blog before, so I’m not covering that ground again (check the noteworthy section linked above in the Navigation bar, or search alcohol)
I am the Lead Pastor of Redeemer Fellowship; husband to Jen; Dad to Katherine, Elias, Madeline, and Kilian. If you're in town you can probably find me in the local coffee house or running through the neighborhoods.
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very nice shots
Thanks, dude!
Joe I really like the Theology Pub idea. How many of the attendees are church members, friends of members, non-Christians, etc?
There were 28 people there last night. We would like to have at least 50% people there from outside of Redeemer. Last night the breakdown was 40% “outsiders,” (Christian, non-Christian, etc), and 60% from Redeemer. This is pretty good for our second event, as we continue to build the culture of Theology Pub.
Joe
Can you give us an update on what the themes are
..and how you split the time up?
Thanks
Our first dialog was on the question, “Is religion and/or spirituality dead in suburbia?” Last night’s discussion was on the meaning of life. Is there one grand purpose for all people, or only smaller, personally established goals/purposes? Can a person live without purpose?
The breakdown is hang out – talk, eat, drink, whatever.
5 Minute introduction to the topic
An hour of discussion – I ask questions and then facilitate the dialog. I do not teach or share many thoughts.
Brief wrap up – why the topic matters to us/me.
People hang around and talk, get to know each other.
This is all still new to us, so we are not experts. We just want to get people talking publicly about the things that really matter – and listening to each other.
Nice venue!
Are you drinking a Coke?
In that photo I am drinking water.
Joe,
It looks like the event was a success! Glad to see Redeemer fulfilling its name by redeeming the pub for kingdom purposes. I look forward to hearing more about it in the future.
JRG
I heard that Al Mohler was there.
Great shots!
Love to come check it out…when is your next meeting time?
Hey Ted, It’ll be next month, no date nailed down yet. Look us up on Facebook and become a fan. You’ll get the updates that way.
Very encouraged by these shots. Will seek to remember to pray for these meetings whenever they are going to occur. Praise the Lord.
P.S. This place looks amazing. What/Where is it?
This is the second floor of a great Irish Pub in Saint Charles – McNally’s.
New it had to be an irish pub!
This is a great idea, how did you go about getting it going?
Imagining:
Just approach a pub owner & say hey can i start a discussion on theology in your pub?
Yeah, that’s pretty much it as far as talking to the pub. I shared a bit of vision, explained why I thought it would be good for the community and the pub itself.
We also spent a couple years considering the idea, talking to Jon McIntosh at The Journey, and we visited their gathering in STL. We had to figure out exactly what we were trying to do with this kind of thing.
I was talking about it on fri with friends, telling them of what you guys are doing & just saying it was a pretty good idea. I’m sure you face the reaction that many of them gave. . .negative. . .’what? in a pub…’ sort of thing.
Praying for it.
I’m sure there was alot of conversation & thought before hand.
Where do you envision it going?(stupid question really: people coming to Jesus!)
Just curious what the general reaction of unbelievers are when they find out a Pastor and some church members meet in a pub for theological discussion. Shocked? Mind-boggled? Curious? Interested?
This atmosphere of church goers meeting in a pub for book readings, theological discussions, etc happen quite frequently up here in ultra-liberal Portland, Oregon.
I’ll be honest: I still feel quite uncomfortable when I see the pics of beer on the table over a discussion of theology. I’m genuinely curious: why beer and not a Coke?
The response from unbelievers has been very positive. They hear what we’re doing and are at least for it, and at best they want to come and participate. They aren’t shocked. But curious and interested – yep. I have heard from others that it’s a safe place to dialog without hearing a one-sided hard sell. People need to work it out, talk these things out.
And I don’t think it’s not beer vs coke. It’s beer, coke and every other good thing God gives us. By the way – you can get a coke or water at the pub.
We choose the pub because over, say a coffee house because a good pub like this has food, drink, and great atmosphere. This pub has an amazing “upper room” (oh yes, I just said it) with plenty of seats. We will be able to pull in 50 or more people into this space. This is not possible in a local coffee house. There’s more to it, but you get the idea.
I’ve covered the whole alcohol discussion on the blog before, so I’m not covering that ground again (check the noteworthy section linked above in the Navigation bar, or search alcohol)
Joe,
Great work bro. Love what you’re doing – it is as the heart of who I am and what we do. I look forward to visit and a drink.
Michael Trent
@churchbartender
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